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Post by Simon on Apr 6, 2015 10:07:59 GMT -6
For Gen Y'ers like myself, the Chipmunks I grew up with were the Chipmunks of the 80s and 90s, which means my overall exposure to them was mostly through reruns of the 1983-1991 ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS series on Cartoon Network, and whenever channels like Disney would occasionally run THE CHIPMUNK ADVENTURE.
I've noticed in recent years, however, that there's an unfortunately increase is disdain for this incarnation of the franchise, though I can kind of understand why this is happening. The Chipmunks have been around for almost 60 years and have gone through a number of different incarnations over those decades, and not only that, but they are a musical group that not only can release original songs, but adapt well to a variety of different genres of music when doing cover tunes as well. That said, I've noticed one of the biggest complaints the 80s cartoon gets is that the series focused less on the musical aspect of the franchise in favor of character-driven storyline, as opposed to THE ALVIN SHOW, where the music was more forefront. Admittedly, that's what I like about the 80s series, is that the characters were really fully developed over the course of the show, taking them from one-note characters to more well-rounded characters with personalities and traits that you don't see a lot of in cartoon characters; character development is usually something that's discouraged in cartoons, and I think it's one of the things that make the 80s series as great as it was. Another common complaint I see is that apparently Bagdasarian Productions' handling of the series. Again, this is something that does make a little sense when you think about it: song replacements on DVD can be forgiven, it's a legal issue that a lot of older shows (particularly cartoons and other kids show) have to face for DVD releases - but admittedly, having Bagdasarian Productions virtually re-release the same DVD sets over and over again, and maybe only adding one or two new unreleased episodes to re-releases really doesn't work too awfully well in their favor, and it just doesn't seem feasible to repurchase sets of episodes you've already purchased in the past just for the sake of one or two new ones. I'm pretty sure almost, if not all episodes from THE CHIPMUNKS GO TO THE MOVIES season has seen a release on DVD: that right there could be a full set, and it's practically be the closest thing to a complete season set we'll ever get, since, again, legal issues regarding music clearances and licenses is really preventing us from getting season sets otherwise.
I think the rarity and nostalgic filter of THE ALVIN SHOW is really underplaying its intrigue, and since it gets less focus or any kind of treatment from Bagdasarian as opposed to the 80s series is probably another reason why more and more fans are wanting more of it since episodes of the 80s series are pretty much available in any form: DVD or the internet. Not to mention, in additional to original songs, I think most other songs used on THE ALVIN SHOW were public domain, so I don't think there would be many problems to release a complete series set of it - there certainly appears to be a market for it.
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Post by annoymous on Apr 6, 2015 10:51:59 GMT -6
1983 - 1991 were not reruns. they were the official airing of the show itself. The reruns didn't come around until the 90s, they reran on Cartoon Network US and Nickelodeon UK.
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Post by Jeanette on Apr 6, 2015 11:37:32 GMT -6
I love the 80's and 90's cartoons, they were absolutely brilliant and flawless in my opinion. Character development is my main thing, if a show doesn't have it, I lose interest.
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Post by Simon on Apr 6, 2015 20:18:09 GMT -6
1983 - 1991 were not reruns. they were the official airing of the show itself. To clarify, I was saying that I enjoyed reruns of the 1983-1991 series. At that age, I was probably too young to remember if I even saw any of the episodes during their first run or not.
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Post by boredstupid100 on Apr 18, 2015 14:23:20 GMT -6
I agree! The character development is probably the main reason the 80s/90s Chipmunks are my favorite. That and the character designs. I like the Alvin Show for its humor, and it's fine to me that they have very simplistic characteristics and not much development. As you said, the focus was more on the music and the comedy, so it doesn't bother me so much. (However, I wish there had been more Simon-centric episodes, since Simon didn't get a lot of attention).
More to the point, I'm not understanding the hate for the 80s/90s versions myself. I've read some threads here and there throughout the internet from people growing up with the Alvin Show, saying that the 80s cartoon was crap compared to the 60s. A lot of animation enthusiasts seem to place the Alvin Show on a pedestal, claiming it was the best thing to come out of the Chipmunks. While I don't disagree that the Alvin Show is good, it sort of bothers me that they will call the 80s cartoon "crap". It might be the whole "nostalgia filter" deal, but I wonder if they actually took the time to watch the show before they could judge it that way.
And I agree with you on the whole DVD thing. I wish they could find a way to release full season sets, but it's understandable why they can't. Oh well, a fan can dream...
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Post by Simon on Apr 18, 2015 15:53:36 GMT -6
I've noticed people who grew up with the original Chipmunks tend to dislike The Chipettes since they weren't around in the beginning . . . but again, I can understand that, because most people who grow up with a long-running franchise tend to dislike whenever newer characters are introduced over the course of the franchise's life, mainly because it just seems like new characters are automatically hated among long-time and older fans. The Muppets has similar problems with Pepe the Prawn - some people like him to a degree, but others dislike him because he's a newer character in the franchise (though oddly enough, everybody seems to love Walter, who was introduced in the 2011 movie).
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